original source: https://youtu.be/2c3m0tt5KcE?t=44m41s
Psychology Professor Dr. Jordan B. Peterson gives practical advice for fighting depression.
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What I got from this segment is that doing nothing isn't going to help you.
I never heard him say it would be easy. I'm convinced we're meant to be somewhat perpetually unhappy.
Does anyone have this lecture it it's entirety?
The fact that people completely disregard all of this man's ideas simply because the gender pronoun -debacle and the post-modernist neomarxism -thing (which I don't entirely agree with either) is in my opinion absolutely fucking retarded. This dude has amazing points and his stuff has helped me immensely with overcoming my drug addictions, depression and other awful shit that have been making my life a chaotic hell. It's a shame I was unable to go see him in Helsinki, but I hope one to day be able to see him live on stage.
I think this guy is pretty much a quack. Telling people that there are cases that can't be helped. Saying if you're happy it's by "the grace of god". How scientific. I agree staying active and busy helps. But not everyone is so lucky to have a job and friends. Everyone can't just get up and recover when they're down. Everyone needs help sometime in their life.
This man had severe depression for many years and was on anti-depressants. He obviously couldn't cure his own depression so why should anyone else be taking his advice? There are a lot of things missing from his advice, including exploring and facing up to the things that happened in your past that may have led to your depression.
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It is a system why people are depressed. System is crocked and rotten. Nothing is wrong with people other ways. One guy on the top takes it all and everyone pretends it is great and who ever can't make it he thinks is his fault. We have to change this system.
The only way to overcome depression is to try with your all to get what you want. Hopefully then the trying and the attainment of some degree of what you want will make you less depressed. The only alternative is self destruction, whether it's slow or lengthy. And if you try your hardest and still fail to get any satisfaction from the trying, and you still fail to attain your goals, then you can either try again, or accept self destruction with a clean conscience. Drugs will only help with alleviating a degree of depression. That might be the difference between going on or hanging yourself, but it won't provide you with anything more. That's about it.
To me personally, to live a life with purpose is very important. No matter how small that purpose might be, and how depress and anxious I become time to time, I'll always remember that goal. It gives me hope. One day I woke up feeling like a mess, after crying for hours. I have no job, and don't have any friends I can trust. My dad is verbally abusive, and my boyfriend is too busy, and less affectionate. I turn on my computer, then start listening to couple of songs, then out of nowhere I feel so much better. I told myself repeatedly, things are going to get better, I need to keep trying, work hard toward my goals.
Writing a To Do List every day in a journal helped me. From small to big things. And I only had to do at least one a day. Which equalled a success. It became a habit, a challenge, eventually. Gave structure, meaning and purpose, it organised my time. X
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I'm a double-amputee confined to a wheelchair. I piss on myself all the time due to no bladder control due to my underlying disability which is spina bifida. I also have a colostomy bag. I live on $725 a month SSI. I don't have a car. How do you suggest I get over my depression?
I had a history of clinical depression. In the past 5 months I changed my diet, worked out a lot, stopped drinking alcohol, and developed a strict schedule. I haven't been depressed since. Not saying that this work for you, but it's a suggestion.
Finding friends or establishing an intimidate relationship is way harder than it seems, especially I feel like people who haven’t truly experienced what it is like to be alone in that manner for a consistent amount of years will never get their head around how hard it is as they are never able to truly relate to how it feels, I’m not saying it’s impossible to get out of in just saying it is incredibly hard depending on what situations you are in
Dating and intimate relationships make me very anxious and depressed. The happiest days of my life have been breaking up with women . That may sound sad but it's true. LOL . There is absolutely nothing wrong being single as long as you have friends, activities and goals.
Most people I've met in my life who claimed to be depressed have had one thing in common, their real reason of depression was that their life was not what they expected it to be at the time and they couldn't see how to get there quickly. Not that much was wrong in their life, just that they hadn't aquired things they valued at the time.
Maybe the reason the cause of depression has not been discovered is because depressed people are rarely open and honest about why they feel the way they do AND what they TRULY think makes them feel that way. They rather spend their energy gaining sympathy that finding a solution.
I was diagnosed and medicated for depression. The real reason if I'm absolutely honest with yall is that I was extremely sad and despondent because I was reckless with money and the consequences made me "depressed". Looking back 10 years later, im rarely "depressed" when i have money. Yes people get depressed even if they have money bit my point is that if they were to be absolutely honest, you will likely find thier reasons to be quite trivial and basic even to themselves.
"My interpretation of Peterson's brief, generalized assessment of ways to address depression doesn't match my highly specific set of circumstances, therefore he must be wrong."
-A bunch of depressed people on YouTube.
If you're so mentally petty that completing work and having a month off bothers you, just walk up to a cop and flip them off. Or take my job on the farm and give me a brake. Hope ya like waking up at 3:50am. Then you'll see.
To quote a great film, one that I relate heavily to, "sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand."
No job + No relationships or no friends + Addiction problem or health issues = Almost impossible to help you.
So whats the suggestion for those who are in the impossible group? Just give up and die as theres no purpose to the suffering...
Was hoping this video would help, but ive just heard from most intelligent man that ... theres no hope... its impossible.. so why bother... just when you think life can't get any worse, any lower... looking for hair strand of hope that its not all pointless and over... then hearing..... yes its all doomed. Thanks Peterson... thanks. I thought depression was making me not see a way out, but you've just said there is no way out
Well, I wanted to give this video a try, since my dad's been very depressed lately, and I thought this video would give me a hint or two to pass him... but instead it wound up reminding me of my teenager/young-adult stage in life, where I was so deeply depressed and hopeless of life, I had contemplated taking it out of me many times. The main reasons: Health problems, No job, No friends, No intimate relationship. This man speaks the truth that you are segregated from society when you don`t have a job, because THAT IS DAMN TRUE... and, yes, having a not so good job is WAY, WAY better than having none... by now I've had a good share of odd jobs, but I grew the heck out of it it too... and it gave me REASONS to go on, to say the least...
Hurts me to even remember how it felt to wake up every day and think to myself "Ok, I'm awake, now what?"... life had no point, no direction, I had no reason at all to be alive.. Felt terrible to be awake, I hated what I was living, and having my conscience functioning and keeping me aware of the situation I was and it kept reminding me I had no purpose or goal in life... loved the feeling of drowsiness that only came at absolutely no given time: I could sleep 3-4 hours a day at times, and then I would spend up to 14 hours in bed, my sleep cycles were basicly broken... and yes, I was randomly going to and out of bed, I wasn't living by the clock (as a typical society member), I felt lucky to be drowsy, since sleeping was my subterfuge...
Depression is a disease that requires treatment. I wish society knew better on how to treat and guide people out of it... some of the most amazing people I've met had faced it at least once in their lifetimes... life is worthful to fight for
Yeah, you know because A.) Employers like to hire depressed people. B.) People enjoy befriending depressed people - they are so upbeat and fun to be around! C.) And who doesn't want to form a romantic attachment with someone severely depressed?
If you are depressed do like this guy did: write a couple of confusing rubbish books, that would make you some money, then travel the world talking the same contradictive rubbish. You may still be depressed but with lots of money, whores, drugs and flashy cars. And a huge ego.
don't worry about getting friends like I and have a lot of other people have learnt is that, to be happy you need to let go of having them stuff, and love yourself. Imagine relying on external resources to make you happy, get past that, instead of focusing on thing and other people to make you happy, focus on loving yourself and then when you get friends, it will be a better friendship because you wont rely on them. Also Read the book 7 habits of highly effective people. It talks about Your Centre, you can make your centre whatever you want it to be and your mood will be dictated from your centre. if you are for example friend centred, you have a high dependence on how you a treated by other, if you are treated well you are happy if you aren't your not. The book talks about the need for growing out of a depend stage like that and being inderpendant, getting your own emotionaly stability from yourself. Also you can choose your response to any situation, and if your in a bad situation its because you have choosen to stay their. make a choice to be better. make a choice to live a valuled life, where you help people, where you help yourself and live a life worth living. that doesn't mean you need friends.
I love how he constantly gets to the point but the wording/solutions are so vastly simplified that it is almost adorable. Saying to a group of people that if you don't have a job/friends/are depressed=impossible to help????is so ....soooo....rude,condesceding,arbitrary...not professional. Period. Take him with a lot of grains of salt haha
......... MANY "THINGS" ..... SITUATIONS IN LIFE .....
ARE NOT"NEGOTIABLE" ..... PARTICULARLY WHEN
A YOUNG PERSON .... LEAVES A CHAOTIC HOME
ENVIRONMENT ...... AND HAS TO STRUCTURE A
COLLEGIATE .... JOB LIFE. THE FANTASIES OF FINDING
THAT SPECIAL PERSON TO PROTECT ...... AND MAKE
YOUR LIFE BETTER ...... IS RARELY POSSIBLE .... UNLESS
YOU BECOME HEALTHY ENOUGH TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT
AND GOAL ORIENTED. ..... CHEMICAL LACK IMBALANCES
LEARNING ..... DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES ....... COUPLED
WITH THE DRAINING EXHAUSTION ..... MANY DEPRESSIONS
BRING ..... IS VERY PROBLEMATIC ..... AND DISABLING ..... FOR
SO MANY! ..... SITUATIONAL DEPRESSIONS .... INVOLVING .....
TRAUMA ..... DEATHS ETC ........ EXASPERATE ..... EVEN A MILD
DEPRESSION! ..... I GUESS IN A NUTSHELL ...... IN AN IDEAL WORLD
..... THERE IS A CURE FOR EVERY DISEASE ..... AND LIFE PROBLEM?
IN TRUTH .... MANY DEPRESSIONS .... CUT DOWN ON THE QUALITY
OF LIFE .... THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE POSSIBLE. THAT BEING SAID
MUSIC ..... FRIENDSHIP .... SMALLER WORK ENVIRONMENTS .............
PROJECTS ..... PRAYER LIVES .... SPIRITUALISM ..... MAKE MANY ......
LIVES .... VERY WORTHWHILE ...... DESPITE????? .....
The best anti-depressant is sunlight. Did you know UV light makes dopamine. Did you know sunlight also makes beta-endorphin in your brain. Did you know watching a sunrise or sunset makes lithium in your brain. Come on Jordan. Help people. Stop selling drugs legally. Anti-depressants help a lot of people? Bro catch the hell up. They are absolutely shit for you.
Depression is a normal part of life as we go through changes and have to let go of outgrown parts of ourselves or worse, we have to let go of parts of us that have not yet been fulfilled: My journey through life revealed the high's we are all looking for and the lows we are forced into in an ever increasing spiral till I discovered the cause of all mental illness and the solution to them as well: Religiously I was led from denomination and sects of Christianity, even those like Jehovah Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Science, and many more. I was not brought up a Christian but I was led to believe in Jesus from a TV movie at age 14: After 26 years of seeking, asking, knocking, "IT" was finally opened when I found, and it was answered, because CHRIST was revealed in me: Yes Christ RISES in us because that is where he is lying dead or dormant in us till that DAY, which is what the Bible calls the DAY of the LORD. After this, the Bible was opened, revealed in me as a book that describes the INNER JOURNEY to the INNER KINGDOM. In other words, Christ (the inner oil/anointing that is activated) returns to INDIVIDUALS and raises them up (OUR PERSONAL RAPTURE) just like the apostle Paul shows us: My videos explain my personal experience of Armageddon, the rapture, and every thing the Bible explains that will happen on that DAY where we have our HOUR. Our visitation. Once we experience the separation of our ego (the part of us that is connected to the 'worlds' value system, from our soul (our true authentic needs as a human being), we can and do overcome mental illness, emotional lack and spiritual separation from the source of all live that many call God:
Depression can also stem from inflammation. My own study of my life and illnesses. Premature, almost medically put in a bubble, extreme asthma, bladder issues underdeveloped fighting for my life. At a very young age thought things people don’t learn as adults. I was happy and depressed because I had a family that cared and loved me , but it was also very scary , put in tubs of ice for extremely High fevers, anaphylactic shock to many times, bad extreme asthma attacks. But I fought to survive. Fast forward grow out of most married, homeschooled all my kids through grade school then they went to charter ... I catch lyme, 11 years later I’m still fighting this horrible disease, but even though I did get depressed, antidepressants took my drive completely away. Tried different kinds, made me to tired, to depressed only now everything is ok to do, so you wanna take your life go ahead, everything is ok, want to buy something you can’t afford, go ahead it’s ok, it takes away the “ no” that protects you. Antidepressants take away a very important reasoning factor. Instead get to the root of the problem and that’s inflammation of the brain. Anti inflammatories combined with antihistamine when needed makes me feel amazing clear. With Lyme you have toxic die off, inflaming your brain and pretty much every organ and tissues of the body. It’s stealthy and attacks your adrenals and puts you in a fight flight mode that hits from a few times a day to solid weeks of feeling like you gotta leave your body and run. I think a toxic environment, chemical laden foods , chronic illnesses /diseases,poor diet , make up for most depression. I think that should be the first thing to do, followed by therapy that actually teaches a patient to cope, giving them coping skills instead of pills. I can’t work and I tried recently, a seasonal job, My Brain was constantly on the fritz, a few days my feet wouldn’t work, and the pain was crazy I now have neuropathy . And you’re right as much pain as I was in, I was glad to be there, I felt valued even if they did think I was the crazy lyme lady lol. And I spiraled when they no longer needed me. I’m now in a new lyme protocol that it’s impossible for me to work cause you can’t schedule an employee around their few good days a week cause you never know when it’s gonna be bad. I so wished I had a job I could come in at anytime I wanted , I’m a doer and a doer that cant is never good .
happiness isnt the thing to seek, its bliss, a constant 10% boost and lift to ones current state of being no matter what happens, get yourself in the mindset of a slightly stronger loving person with charm in the heart, find love and choose to love
I agree, brilliant stuff. My brother-in-laws daughter ended her life a few years ago and i wish i knew about Peterson back then. It may not of helped but it may of given my brother-in-law some additional ideas to try and perhaps she may still be with us.
I actually believe this. My sister/brother-in-law had a dark, depressing garage in their back yard which was turned into a messy book filled study. When their son lived in it for a few years he turned into a depressed drug addict who is still trying to rebuild his life to this day. After that their daughter lived in it for 2 years and she ended her life in it. She had problems before but her depression got a lot worst in the garage. My brother-in-law is still trying to get over finding the body of his daughter in it. The garage has been demolished and i feel it did contribute to the sad events described above.
Basically his ideas for treating depression involve getting depressed people to do behaviours that non-depressed people do. Since depression is a symptom based diagnostic construct that is both completely tautological and stupid.
Antidepressants are medications that can help relieve symptoms of depression, social anxiety disorder, anxiety disorders, seasonal affective disorder, and dysthymia, or mild chronic depression, as well as other conditions.
They aim to correct chemical imbalances of neurotransmitters in the brain that are believed to be responsible for changes in mood and behavior.
Depression Medications (Antidepressants)
These are the most commonly prescribed type of antidepressant.
Serotonin and noradrenaline reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) are used to treat major depression, mood disorders, and possibly but less commonly attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), anxiety disorders, menopausal symptoms, fibromyalgia, and chronic neuropathic pain.
SNRIs raise levels of serotonin and norepinephrine, two neurotransmitters in the brain that play a key role in stabilizing mood.
Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) are the most commonly prescribed antidepressants. They are effective in treating depression, and they have fewer side effects than the other antidepressants.
SSRIs block the reuptake, or absorption, of serotonin in the brain. This makes it easier for the brain cells to receive and send messages, resulting in better and more stable moods.
They are called "selective" because they mainly seem to affect serotonin, and not the other neurotransmitters.