Many companies have offered diversity trainings to teach their employees about implicit biases. But what does that mean, and is it really helping anything?
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Have they considered that part of the reason employers don't call back people with "ethnic" names is that maybe they just don't want to try to pronounce them and risk getting it wrong? Like, maybe it's more laziness than it is racism...
You can also be racist if you think a group of people is innately better at something. Like a lot of people think of Africans as being really good at running, or that the Japanese, in general, are really good with technology, or one I had when I was in my teens: the Japanese play a lot of video games. Really, the number that did was about the same as it was in the US, so... I mostly thought they did because a lot of games and game systems originated from Japan, so if you have more access to it, more people are likely to use it, right? So now I'm not really sure if that was 'racist' as much as a speculation based on incomplete information.
The history of this particular argument deals with a white female employee at a Starbucks calling the police because two black male customers were being black while waiting for a friend before ordering anything. That was her actual excuse she used to the police.
I wonder why people in a country where less than 7% of the population commit around 50% of all the murder, are overtly racist, commit the bulk of interracial violence, commit vastly disproportionate amounts of serious crime, etc... would have any negative associations develop regarding that small part of the population.
+Justin Stressman I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, you obviously aren't some sort of hateful racist, but curious as to the source of the statistics you are quoting? I'm more than happy to change my opinion based on empirical evidence, but I do nerd to see said evidence first.
+Mitchell Sanders First, you realize that blacks commit more than 3 times as much homicide (by rate per capita) as Latinos, despite having roughly the same poverty rate, right? Or that Asian Americans faced severe discrimination up to the same point during the civil rights era, and yet went from being one of the most discriminated against groups, to being even more successful than whites, and having gotten so good that they're now being discriminated against in colleges for scoring too high, doing too well, and being over-represented, etc. My argument isn't that race itself is the problem. It's that blacks in the US have a terrible culture that is itself the primary source of their own misery today. Not external classic "racism", but rather their own terrible culture driving their own racism and rampant criminality which in turn simply make the rest of society rationally avoid them as the dramatically higher statistical risk that they present, and much higher likelihood of not sharing common American/western values like the rest of society.
It's like pointing out that women fear men more than other women, because they're far more likely to be victimized by a male than a female. That's just a statistical reality. And as a result of that reality of males being far more violent, males face around a 60% higher penalty in criminal sentencing vs women for the exact same crime with all other factors being equal. Black males only face around a 10% penalty for being black males vs white males, and that doesn't stem from race itself, as black females face 0 penalty vs white females. Race isn't the issue. It's the fact that males commit about 90% of the violence vs women, and black males specifically commit a massively disproportionate share of the most extreme violence out of all males (~14x as much by rate per capita as Asian Americans, ~12x as much (by rate per cap) as non-hispanic whites, and more than 3x as much (by rate per cap) as Latinos, Native Americans, Polynesians, etc... even when the poverty rate is similar (Latinos) or even worse (Native Americans), and even when gang affiliation is worse on top of poverty (Latinos.)
The bottom line is that blacks factually are committing so much more violence and crime than anyone else, and the excuses for it don't seem to hold up to scrutiny when contrasted with other ethnic groups who have faced historic discrimination and persecution, or those that have even faced slavery etc.
The problem seems specific to American black culture, and regardless of how that culture came to be (slavery and historic racism certainly play a large part), nobody can change it today except blacks themselves. That's the bottom line. Their culture and their action are the elephant in the room of the reasons why they continue to suffer today and will continue to suffer until they themselves take responsibility and change it. Nobody else can do it for them, and nobody else can reasonably be expected to put themselves at much higher risk or pretend the problem doesn't exist, or take the blame for something they're not actually guilty for today, etc.
You have to take into account socioeconomic factors such as access to education, poverty, low decile neighbourhoods etc etc. Black people tend to have more stressful upbringing/living situations, face more prejudice in day to day life and in general have fewer opportunities to improve their lot in life. The stats are skewed. They don't commit more crimes because they're black, it's just that lower quality of life usually goes hand in hand with criminality, and black people tend to be more likely to be charged with a crime than a white person in the same situation
Racism, and other prejudices, are important for us to think about and discuss, but only in certain pre-defined circumstances. It's not the kind of problem to bring up every time it might be present, because that only draws our attention to it and makes us think about it more. The more we think about it, the more we'll start to see it, even in places where it doesn't really exist.
We need to practice living as if it's not an issue, because if we can't learn to do that, we'll never get over it.
I don't understand your revised question for whether or not white people are smarter than black people... How does a mentality that black people today are being too demanding equal out two thinking white people are smarter than them
Those stupid "implicit bias" tests aren't a good metric at all. They rely one the arrow keys for sorting, and flip the key for each category. They just build up your muscle memory and then confuse it. The only thing being tested is how quickly you can re-train yourself to press the left arrow instead of the right when you see a given type of image.
Something I've noticed over the years is that many people swear that people of other races (in case of Europe or Eastern Asia mostly black people) smell differently.
Could it, however, be that when you see someone with skin significantly different than yours that you instinctively try to turn on your sense of smell (like dogs and cats would)? At this point it is natural that you will feel something because every person emits some smell, only most of the time we don't acknowledge it consciously... Just a theory of mine.
I like my implicit biases. My implicit biases will keep me safe, keep me alive. My implicit biases are non-negotiable. They are gained and learned through life experiences. People who are attempting to change or otherwise alter implicit biases in others have never been tested in a life or death situation where their implicit biases were necessary.
I appreciate the video but I wish you had distinguished between prejudice and racism. Namely, that racism is power plus prejudice - what happens when prejudice becomes entrenched in cultural and institutional norms. So everyone's a little bit prejudiced, but not everyone is in a position to systematically impose that prejudice on others.
Sooooo many assumptions made, especially with the associations with names, specifically the failure to differentiate between bias against stereotypical/foreign names vs names that are familiar. The biggest issue with these examinations is the labeling of banal personal preferences, specifically the understood reality that people refer the familiar to the foreign, as racist. I get Steve. Steve is boring. That I don't get Shaquandra means nothing towards racism if I also don't get Abelard or Vitaliy. At best, it's mere xenophobia. A problem in and of itself but a very different animal from racism.
I like to think I am a white man always trying to be more politically correct, respectful, polite, inclusive, and well sensitive to everyone... but somehow I can still really show off that I am a white guy just trying the best I can...
i sh!t you not but i have a report due tomorrow night based on an IAT my psych class did based on race. This vid has just provided me with a list of articles saving me from some scholar searching....awesome. Also I'm glad to hear that the meta analysis' are showing a lack of reliability as this was something that i was thinking upon doing the experiment. However i agree with some of the comments i've read below, we all may have a little bit of racism in us but that doesn't mean we will in turn display prejudice towards other races or genders, ages, creeds etc. It might be pointing at our environment which isnt just referring to our country or community but what we learn has a big part to play in this, genetics too. But i would like to bring up our inherent thought processes, most notably pattern recognition and theres a list of cognitive bias' that play a role here also. So don't feel bad if you 'failed' the IAT and have been shown to be 'racist' my ninjas, it's the actions you take afterwards that make you racist.
There are racist people out there, but most people are stereotypical towards other people instead of being racist... some people might say that's the same thing... I can be stereotypical sometimes towards other people but I usually catch myself... but in the end I am a very open minded individual because I couldnt have made the type of music I made if I was racist and closed minded... I had to listen to music from other cultures to develop my own style... because at the end of the day the only color that matters is green and I had to look at things from other people's perspectives and see things from all angles in order to invent another path to take that hasnt been taken before for my future...
I think it is also important to understand the difference between racism and "newness". If you never had contact with people of different backgrounds and or skin-color, the reactions may be simliar to what some might consider racism. I think being cautious is not the same as being racist.
*I'm not racist, but* I believe that everyone who isn't me should be sub-servant to me and recognize me as their superior. Obviously all the world's problems would be solved if I was given absolute control. The sooner people realize this truth the better off we'll all be.
I'll always look black people stronger than he rest bc As a latin American, my history says the colonizers brought black men from african bc many native americans where dying for slavery and black people they where stronger and could handle the work better, and that was a fact. I'll never know if native or European are stronger than who but for sure my history tought me black people is damn strong. Same as men no matter the race are stronger than women, is biological... for all i know history and biology says I'm weak af, native European latina xD so I'll embrace my weakness lol
My easy solution for this is that I'm racist against everybody. No matter if are you black, white, high-class, low-class, rich, poor, female, male... I'll always be equally racist to everybody. That way no one will feel bad. :)
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I would associate rabbits and flowers with Easter, where white is the predominate color scheme, so I wonder what other associations people might have.
I don’t doubt that implicit bias exists, just doubt some of the testing for it.
No not everyone is a little racist. When Christopher Columbus landed in what is now Hispaniola, the Arawak people did not fear or kill him and his crew. If they were inherently a little racist, they would have done so immediately as racism is a defense mechanism.
I need someone to explain something to me if they would be so inclined :~) Where or when did the word race come to be used to explain observable differences between different people? What I mean is this, I am a "white" person, kind of an off-pink if we are honest about it, then standing next to me is someone who is black. Why does that mean that I am a different race? I mean, we are visually different but that is entirely due to tens of thousand of years of evolution in different areas and situations, white people lived in cooler countries and "black" people lived in hotter countries. Now my main point, racism is a stupid word to use to describe prejudice, we are, after all, all of us HUMAN. There is only one race on the planet and as I say that is the HUMAN RACE. Using the word race automatically conjures up a competition between the different peoples thereby, given the weakness of humans, causing an automatic belief in one being is better than the other. It is ridiculous. One more thing I find extremely odd is the amount of white people whom would be classed as racist, try their hardest to change their skin colour by sunbathing or fake lights, shouldn't someone who is racist be disgusted at themselves until their suntan has gone?
I find that the most racist people are the ones going around calling other people racists (or xenophobic, islamopbobic, etc.), bringing up race all the time, perpetuating the myth of systemic racism, making up absurd, actually racist terms like "white privilege", changing the status quo of what's ok terminology to refer to people's race as, arbitrarily dictating what is pc and what isn't, exaggerating the degree to which racism still exists, and assuming you're white and racist if you disagree with them on anything. And then there are the rest of us that stopped caring decades ago because race is a social construct and irrelevant where ethnicity is more objectively categorical.
I came to the conclusion that as we evolved in this capitalist world there is no such thing as racism/genre/sexual preferences/etc discrimination. There is just CLASSICISM. You can be whatever you want as long as you have money and people will respect you, but if you are poor they discriminate you for the stupidest things
There wouldn't BE a bias/stereotype if the actions of certain groups of people didn't happen ya know...
Like, I wouldn't think of black dudes always being in a gang if I never grew up in a city where every night the news station would report black guys going to prison for starting a gang fight.
tl;dr Starbucks is dumb, implicit bias training is a waste of time and money, and we can prevent it by teaching kids to treat people as individuals, some of whom sometimes fit the stereotype of their identity (like my fat Italian ass eating pizza 3x a week) and others breaking those stereotypes (like my black girlfriend detesting watermelon) (which I don't understand because watermelon is at least one of the top 5 fruits)
Ok, but can any of these theories (of implicit bias) be negated? I mean, is there any kind of data that would tell researchers that such biases DO NOT exist, in the case they don't? I'm talking about Karl Popper's theory of scientific deniability.
(Sorry if I mislabeled anything, usually talk about all of this in Portuguese)
Master Therion ah, but nails and screws also serve slightly different purposes. use one over the other (depending on the situation) and you will have problems!
I guess that makes wood discriminatory huh
Let's just be honest here. Listen to your own feelings, and do some self-reflection, and you will find out that you like people from your own race more than people of different races. It's so logical (evolutionarily and psychologically), and I can't imagine people don't feel the same way. It's just like prefering family over strangers, or humans over ants.
People from a different race look different, they act different, they often have different values. That doesn't mean we should discriminate. It's just an interesting fact about races
Yes, we unintentionally start noticing trends when we are young, and these form prejudices when we're older. Then, we learn that people are individuals and don't always fit the norm. Anyway, I just came here to read racist jokes, and I'm thoroughly disappointed
A hilarious black comedian once said, "I don't think you're racist until you go to your second Klan meeting" lol I would tend to agree with this. A big thing for me are certain stereotypes. If I see you acting out one of your race's stereotypes in a way that annoys me or interferes with my life (it happens far too often, especially with my job), chances are I'm probably thinking some pretty biased stuff at that moment. I don't assault people, I don't hinder their lives for any reason, not because of race or anything else. I wouldn't say I'm a racist, but indeed pretty biased. I should probably work on it 😐
Everyone’s a little bit racist sometimes... doesn’t mean we go around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find, no one's really colour-blind. Maybe it's a fact we all should face. Everyone makes judgments based on race!
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