It’s easy to assume that people who join cults have something wrong with them, but usually the people who join cults are just like the rest of us. So, how does it happen?
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Wow, sounds a lot like Jehovah's witnesses. When my grandparents moved into a predominantly JW neighborhood why brought plenty of gifts and helped my grandparents fix up their new home for free. Next thing I know my own grandparents can't celebrate Christmas, my birthday or any other holidays b/c they have to be in their church and be with their own.
Honestly, people join extremist cults, because they lack mainly the education to think for themselves independently, and they want to feel like they want to fit in with popularity, since they are nobodies, they lack real loved ones, or they were beaten like a dog by their parents to become very vile, even if the popular narcissistic cultist leader are indifferent about their own followers. Cultists, similar to their fanboy counterparts in gaming or anime, lie a lot or don't criticize almost anything on the issues, harass anyone who doesn’t agree with their short-sighted views on the subject at hand, and get over-hyped with very high expectations that their leader will fulfill their promises, despite the leader not doing so. Furthermore, cultists worship their leader as a "God" without their leader having any character flaws, being dimwits with low standards for loving everything that their leader spews at them without any proper constructive criticism, and blame on everyone, except for themselves and their leader, for their own mistakes, instead of living up to their own issues in life. Cultists will defend their leader, who don't mind tossing their followers under the bus, to achieve world domination and excessive wealth, to death over very unintelligent reasons at the cost of the sufferings of many innocent beings on earth in reality. In other words, cultists are a sheep to the slaughter, and they constantly live in their own little fantasy world.
It's interesting you didn't mention the BITE model for evaluating cults. I know there's disagreement on it, but from what I've seen it's gained a good deal of attention as being fairly reliable at least for identifying cults by criteria based around manipulation and control. I've seen it leveraged to great effect not just in picking which group to label a cult, which is neither terribly helpful nor the direct purpose of the model, but also causing the reviewer to come to understand which particular traits to be wary of and which ones mark it as potentially dangerous.
Out of curiosity, was it an intentional choice based on a particular issue surrounding the model or just either a lack of knowledge or an editorial decision? I'm not trying to pin you to a wall for opting to leave it out. Just curious if there are some flaws with BITE I may not be aware of. I'm open to being wrong and would rather ditch a methodology that has been shown to be flawed.
The best depiction I’ve ever read about cults is a book called Peddling Doomsday by Petra Jacob. It’s fictional but so dead on with the psychology of it. It portrays the idea of how anyone could be sucked into such a world.
The real danger and most destructive kind of cult lays among those that doesn't looks like those small isolated mass suicidal beliefes. Cause they appears harmless despite all the damage involved. Like the Amish or the JW. Or scientology.
They dress like a regular faith, but locks all their members under fear of god and the fate of eternal damnation.
Don’t join a cult , but please head on over to brilliant. We are all brilliant’s children . Lol jk , sooo can you actually get a degree from brilliant or is it mental to be like a build your own ,” degree “ type thing ?
Sounds a lot like the capitalist nation state. Charismatic poplists for leaders. Most people go well over the first ten years of their life before even being introduced to other concepts of democracy and economy. Society is equated to statehood, so enemies of the state are enemies of society and need to be contained.
Cult is just the reclaimed label for religion, used by the religious to keep their religion the dominate one. You can't let the fringe beliefs gain to much traction before it starts to eat into your religions profits and power.
Funny how people can watch a video specifically outlining what a cult is and does, then try to apply it to groups that absolutely do not do those things. Good job on proving your confirmation biases there, people.
My question is whether there are cults that are a positive influence on a person. Would it be wrong to call something as innocent as a book club a domestic cult, or should cults have negative connotations?
The "just like you and me" thing is an obvious oversimplification. If I were "just like" someone who decided to join a cult, then I would most likely be in a cult too, or it would be fairly easy to convince me to join one.
Now, saying they're "normal people" I can definitely agree with, because that's a very broad definition that includes the majority of people on the planet. I just resent the oversimplification.
In religious studies, we prefer not to use the term "cult" because there's no disciplined, principled way of distinguishing a "cult" from a religion you don't like. People will categorize everything from Jehovah's Witnesses to Raelianism to Mormonism to Neo-Paganism as "cults." Of course, some of these are disgusting, manipulative, authoritarian groups - but pretty much just in the way that conservative Christians generally are. Because they ARE just conservative Christians with some innovative religious ideas. But then treating Wiccans, Raelians, and other more egalitarian and progressive groups as NOT cults, because they're progressive, kind of implies a political bias to using the term.... It's pretty clear you have no familiarity with Neo-Paganism if you think Neo-Pagans have all been brainwashed. But then again... there isn't really any scientific basis for concluding that joining conservative groups is the result of brainwashing, either. This has been established in academia for decades by this point, ever since around the time of the moral panic surrounding cults in the 1970s or so.
It's funny that lately, I've been arguing with friends that support an initiative to ban the cults in Spain. I don't think they should be banned, at least, not until all religions are categorized as cults too.
I actually did a personal analysis on Evangelical Christianity as a possible cult (being formerly Evangelical Christian myself). no doubt it 100% matches the criteria, with the only exceptions being churches that don't isolate or publicly shame its members (very few)
I know I'm a bit late watching this video but I have to say that not all people who consider themselves Christians are the same. If you are intolerant & dismissive toward others, how is that showing God's love? Jesus was criticized by the religious rulers often because He ate in the homes of those considered the worst of society. The word "evangelize" makes me think of those melodramatic tv preachers who often give Christianity a bad name. I can only hope to be a good example (though I often fail) & to encourage others & help them believe just how special they are. Penn Jillette of Penn & Teller said in a video that he doesn't believe in God but those of us who do, who truly believe in that whole story, best be telling everybody we know. How could we believe it & not do that?
The isolation and shaming doesn't have to be physical, it can be psychological, and in christianity it is psychological. In Christianity you are basically made to feel like a worthless scumbag and only Jesus can save you from that and anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is from the devil and Christians shouldn't ever spend time with them other than to evangelize. It's in the Bible.
many members do choose to associate almost exclusively with other members to avoid non-believers. case in point: my mother, who has become increasingly intolerant and dismissive towards anyone who doesn't share her exact set of beliefs.
Whoa, SciShow dabbling in religious studies research. Surprised. A few thoughts: 1) Scholars of new religious movements tend to use cult to refer to "marginalized groups in high tension with the surrounding cultures" (quoting Dr. Megan Goodwin, a religious studies scholar). These groups don't necessarily involve coercion, violence, abuse, etc...but they can. 2) Scholars use "New Religious Movement" purposely to try to avoid connotations of violence and coercion...this refers simply to religious movements that are "new" (within the past 100 years for example). 3) People often use "Cult" as a pejorative term to attack, marginalize, or delegitimize religious groups that they don't like. It is "us vs. them" language. So I'm glad SciShow was careful to try to define the term at first. The scholarly use of the term differs from how lots of people use it in every day language.
According to ex-members the KKK is a legit cult. They even control information and excommunicate their ex members from their families. Beisdes all the other things like sayimg they are the chosen ones and all that crap.
I love how the things that cults offer are the same things Millenials are made fun of for trying to works towards it without joining a cult.
Those dang Millenials wanting a life with purpose and always talking about changing the world!
I think the great tragedy is that every sort of socially organized group of humans based on some sort of belief-system, creed or standard will always be cult-like to one degree or another.
And to the degree that it is not it will always be in danger of being subverted, dismantled, subjugated or taken over by those groups that are more cultish, while still being funktional enough.
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