Breakdown of Why we don't have free will & Why that's Okay.
I started doing research on this a few weeks back, when I came across Sam Harris 's book on Free Will while working on a video on meditation. There were several ways I could have explained this, but I was trying to avoid recycling commonly used examples, so this could have ended up even longer. I'm hoping this promotes self-awareness rather than just inducing existential crisises.
■Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely: http://amzn.to/2kj4Qft
■Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman: http://amzn.to/2jIVDwP
■Free Will by Sam Harris: http://amzn.to/2jEB1Ca
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I think for this statement to be true I would have to agree with your definition of free will. Our Brian and our mind is way to complecated for this statement that is based on this simple resurch to be true. But I am not trying to put down your work. Oh and these are just a list of creatures I like and is fascinated by. 🐠🐛🦋🕷️🐍🐏🐆🐅🐈🐎🦄🐃🐐🦉🚻🐮🦍🐒🐪🐫🐁🐭🦏🐘🦃🐓🐔🐣🐌🦑🐞🐝. Aren't they weird.
The body is a machine. You gotta treat your brain like your main computer. The body acts as it should, according to its environment.
Keep in mind that the ENTIRE body is receiving information and the brain is always processing information. Your brain will react based on your personality. If you have the right information and you lean on the funny side, the brain will output a witty "thought" to the "user."
The Human element lies in how we choose to react. If we were educated about emotions and how to use them to our own benefit, then we would be able to make sound decisions no matter the situation.
This implies that there is no such thing as Justice, or Meaning in any human endeavor. Plus, if the people that disagree or agree only do so because of external circumstances and they have no choice in their decision, then why make the video? Anything you do is determined by biology, chemistry and physics.
As for causing compassion, it’s more likely that this belief will just cause people to act amorally.
Authoring a thought has nothing to do with our having Free Will or not. There is an exception since you can choose (haha) to believe so. And I do NOT choose to believe nonsense. And it IS nonsense to believe that authoring a thought is necessary for Free Will.
Those 'heatmaps' at 15.00 are very deceptive, they are psychological associations not bodily thermal reactions to mental stimulus but they are deliberately presented to fool you into making the association between the stimulus and blood flow to the regions generating heat. It would have been very easy for the researchers to just thermally image the participants and come up with real data but instead they have just made it up. It's fake science.
At 14:10 is Robert Sapolsky. I read one of his books and was impressed. Then I saw a video of him where he dishonestly misrepresented psychologist B.F. Skinner's work. Also on Youtube you can find a rebuttal to him. That he could deform another scientist's thinking to criticize a strawman made me lose respect for him. That doesn't mean I reject his work in his field; he should stick to what he knows.
NO! you dummy , emotion is caused by your thinking or imaginary reasons and feelings are to inform you about how your human needs are satisfied or not.
People get angry (emotion) at other people not because of other people , but because how they think about other people . You need awareness about your options in order to choose consciously.
You can feel sadness, because your need for companionship wasn't met. Feel is real, emotion is for imaginary reasons.
+Ocean Pacific Mind slaves have no free will and they talk like a slaves: 'I have to, superiors orders...'
I know I have free will, because I can love and keep friendships that you can't buy for ((( money ))) mark of the Devil.
I am here because my dead and mama loved each other so much. We need free will for friendships, cooperation, mutual care , love ... and everything that we can not buy for money.
We are fruits of love and free will it means everything that we do with out violence, coercion and manipulation.
I may say something, even though it's too late, 3000+ comments late, but many of the language tricks shown in here to make one's thinking prone to one idea over another, don't work when the speaker is non-native.
If my thoughts, actions, emotions and desires are the result of my environment, the information I've stored in my head and how it has affected me, then what does it mean to "decide" (for lack of a better word) to expose myself to different environments or collect more information so that those listed before are more conducive to a desired outcome? If I'm a series of dominoes put into motion by some unknown force, then is it accurate to say this would be like stopping the chain of dominoes in order to reset them and let them fall in a different pattern? Of course I don't choose from them to fall, but I choose how they fall?
Does being aware of your own lack of free will... give you free will?
I'd like to hear your thoughts :)
Interesting video, but I do not think this logically disproves free will. Perhaps you do not have free will truly until you learn to control your body in the ways similar to those that you have provided us here. It seems to me that by obtaining more effective ways to control my short term decisions gives me more access to the free will that you have declared that does not exist.
This is an Interesting Video and it did give me food for thought. And coincidentally I have been thinking on and of about this particular topic for some time now. But I differ in the conclusion I have arrived at, which is free will does does exist from the action or perspective. Let me explain and start by acknowledging that some of what you said is accurate. 1. One does not choose there like and dislikes 2. Human do have a propensity for instinct and involuntary action. 3. If left unchecked these factor can drive a majority of a person actions.
Now the Explanation, my perspective revolves around one major aspect... The determination or quantification of free will. How do you determine free will. The simple answer would be from an action taken or withheld. From this basis it is easy to assert and extrapolate instances of free will from those that are driven by environmental or biological factor. And my proof can be drawn from assessing this questions...
1. Have you ever performed a task you dislike?
2. Have you ever refrained from a liked activity?
3. Have you ever undertaken a great endeavour, which is a complex mix of choices both desirable and undesirable?
3. Why did you make those choices?
4. What is your responsibility in those choices?
5. Is discipline an internal or external factor?
6. Is discipline an implicit expression of free will?
I find that when you observe conflicted scenario such as the first two queries you will find that there is an added agent that does not fall in either biological or environmental. This agent is the ego expressing itself. Free will is the expression of the ego through choice to do or not to do, whether consciously or passively. That said I believe the perceived decline in free will is just a symptom of persons choosing to go on autopilot, in which the individual still made the choice consciously at some point in there life to flip that switch. On the other hand consider someone considering to undertake strength training for the first time. The experience being quite unpleasant and yielding no results for a couple of months, even to the point testing the belief that they would get stronger if they did it. But this individual will push thought the ordeal through sheer force of will and 6 to 8 months later gain the first fleeting glimpses of results. This individual has a choice stop or continue. All I can say is the number of weight lifter with rippling pectorals or number of pro athletes or number of musical prodigies is not zero. Do you follow where I am going with this. Free will is linked to all if not most great achievement humans undertake. Also due to the illusive nature of some of this achievements, meaning they are not guaranteed, the drives for this can not be a purely social pressure. They require the individual to enforce there free will to keep training, keep trying, keep moving toward until the goal is achieved, days, months, years or decades later and someone can receive the endorphin rush and euphoria of have done something great.
Before you can answer the question of "Do we have free will", I think you first have do define what is meant by "we or I". Is the idea that we have free will an illusion, or is the idea that you are your body the real illusion? If you agree with the premise that everything you are is the result of causal interaction, and as such is predetermined, and that all of those interactions could (theoretically) be traced back to the moment of creation, then what you really are is what the entire universe is doing at the point we call here and now. So what you see as your body and mind is really just the tip of the iceberg so to speak.
I think when you look at it from that perspective the question of free will does not make sense, because even though it feels like you are a stranger in the world being pushed and pulled by forces beyond your control, the real you, the deep down whatever there is, is what you are, only you have this illusion that is not true. So unless you subscribe to some supernatural force that operates outside of nature, how do you separate yourself from the entire universe? Other than through the illusion of perception, but the reality is, Your It. read Alan Watts, he explains it far better than I.
Why? All the reasons stated, plus he looks like you or who you would aspire to look like, along with being the cultural ideal that is given status and value in our current society. If Samantha or Dwayne had the same thought we would not hear it in the first place and studies have shown the same script would be more likely to be dismissed.
It seems to me there is a spectrum of free will. At one end you have full autonomy, at the other end you have none. Examples of each would be; Picking a number 1-10(full autonomy). Keeping your hand on a hot burner(no autonomy). With most things being in between the two ends.
I dont believe in free will but i have a question for those that may of had success with addiction, I want to quit smoking if you dont believe in free will and have quit i wanna hear from you what method you used to quit.
Question - what would it take to prove free will? What is the one proof that would convince even the most "no free will" person to go "Damn, there IS free will after all."? Until we can answer that, there's no point arguing about it.
*I feel like way too often, people subtly turn having free will into being omnipotent.* "I lock you in a cage. You can't choose not to be in there, therefor no free will" or "You can't choose not to die, therefor no free will." Where do we draw the line?
To the author, I enjoyed the video. Very compelling. But, think about this (the keyword here is "learning"): Provided a person is normal, would he do the same mistake over and over again especially if he lost a limb to risk another arm? Learning jumpstarts Free Will. If humans have no free will then the bible lied that there is hope for mankind. Thank you.
It is such a big pill to swallow. To learn that our brain is inanimate and our thoughts are generated by reflexes and chemical reactions. I constantly ask myself exactly why I have consciousness and a monologue. We're they generated by just a bunch of atoms?
its awesome , I basicly have no free will If I would watch this video or not , I have no free will over if I'll procastinate or not . I also have no free will if I will listen to this video or not. Everything was basicly already written and if you know all 'parameeters' in the universe or earth you can theoretically predict everoynes actions indefinetly forever , of course if you have the will for that
so we are a spectator, well my player sucks so far what I can tell
Wait a second, why does this sound so familiar? Oh yes, that is literally what I just read in the book called “ Incognito” . I don’t know if it is a coincidence or not, but interesting. Why are some sentences nearly copied?
In short, existentialism is even more of a done deal than previously thought. Even if we could somehow add meaning to our lives, we can't grant ourself life (which is generally described as free will). Life itself is an illusion, people are robots. Even happiness doesn't matter.
Try teaching or parenting based on the basis that free will does not exist. I am curious how that would go. Imagine the excuses! "Little Johny, why didn't you do your homework?". "Daddy, my physiological state and previous conditioning forced my to play video games instead. I am as disappointed as you are. My biology left me powerless".
I really enjoyed the video, but disagree on the overall conclusion. It implies that when an event occurs, our physiology and prior conditioning provide us with a singular prescribed reaction which we have no choice but to follow. With this I disagree. Instead our subconscious mind gives our conscious mind multiple options in which we must choose from. In some circumstances we don't have time to think through our options. Even in those circumstances our subconscious was sculpted in large part by our previous effortful actions. Our belief system and in turn our evolving physiological state is in large part, the result of the choices we make. Choices and intuitive reaction, free will and physiology, conscious and subconsious are inter related, not mutually exclusive concepts.
I thought of soap, and I have to decide if I read a billboard. Logic rather than emotion runs my decision making; sometimes to my disappointment. A disciplined mind can stop all thought. Meditate. Yes the majority of thought is done in the subconscious.
I've never understood people who argue against us having free will. Pretty much who tries almost always ends up admitting their definition of free will is totally unrelated to common use of the word, and it's totally absurd.
It's just such a bizarre thing to argue for. Like, if you were serious about this lack of free will, then your arguments for this lack would be non-free as well, and thus you'd end with all your intellectual positions collapsing into meaninglessness.
Allright, lets make things clear. The "free will" is an inhibitor on itself; doesn't matter how smart, talented or wise one think one is, one shouldn't impose his choice over someone else. One shouldn't decide whats best for someone else, one should appreciate others "free will". The title "we don't have free will" becomes inappropriate because it isn't about free will. This video is about variables which may influence one's decision, eg human behavioral biology.
It kind of amazes me how people react to this concept. Assume that the conclusion is true and that we indeed do not have free will. What has fundamentally changed about you and your life? For however many years you've been alive, you probably didn't think about the concept of free will all that much and didn't care. You can leave this video and live your life just the same as you have been doing for all these years you've been alive. Examine the evidence for yourself and come to whatever conclusion you think best matches reality.
To me, the concept of free will seems dead, but it doesn't change who I am. I still 'chose' to start dieting and exercising over a year ago because I wanted to be healthier. It was my choice. That choice was influenced by a number of factors... Videos I watched, dietary facts and information I researched online, a few friends of mine dieting and losing weight, some tweets I saw, the time of day, my medical status... A long list of circumstances that led to other circumstances that led to others on and on until at that point I finally switched from "I don't care about losing weight" to "I care about losing weight!". Whether or not that switch was from a truly free will or a long list of circumstances coalescing together to form a change in my mental state is irrelevant to who I am as a person, ya know! I can be convinced I don't (and that no one really) has free will and still live my life as I always have, and so can you!
Trumann is simply going with the flow, therefore, he is in a state of "emotional flow" where even subtle things may have a large impact on his free will or lack of it. He is being directed down a preselected path and is even sedated to keep him on it.
I can draw a parallel to a social phenomenon of massive group stalking with persons voluntarily (prob usually women) stalking, organizing, and socially engineering the target to end up some preselected way by nudging the target towards whatever is selected for him (it's always a guy--women own society). Perhaps with enough minds active and willing enough, this would be enough to give the target a feeling of unease (no word for this).
From Trumann's frame of reference, he may not have free will, but the frame of reference of the group as a whole is who is ultimately making the same choices every day to keep playing with him.
This is subjective relativity that is probably enamored with patterns that appear throughout s-time as a manifestation of quantum leaps and quantum entanglements. OR time is a singularity, all stacked on one spot, so we only see "transparency", of sorts, that is observable at the right places-times.
If we are living inside a matrix, a computer code type of existence with the laws of existence being govern by math, then everything is an illusion, but somehow consciousness exists.
But if we don't have free will, how are we then conscious. Wouldn't the tiniest bit of free will overrun everything else that suggests that we don't have free will?
If we compare a dream to a lucid dream. Then a regular dream with you just reacting to your surroundings and having no conscious awareness of you being in a dream is you having no free will. Then if we look to a lucid dream then you are aware and conscious, wouldn't that in itself cause just a little bit of free will? As I see it, free will might be consciousness. Either you have free will or you don't. Of course we are affected by everything that is happening inside and outside of the body, that way we may not be able to see what actions are govern by free will and and which aren't.
Your conscious mind/brain and your unconscious mind/brain are 2 separate authorities imposing influence and power over your physical body. That's how you can "talk to yourself".... *and respond back.*
Do I want pizza for lunch?
No I want a burger.
Who asked? Who responded? *If* they're the same, why do they communicate *with each other* as though they are not?
About drugs and alcohol.. well, you choose that before. You choosed to use drugs, or drink alcohol... In your argument, I can avoid punishment if i run a pedesterian and kill it because i was drunk or high?
I think free will has limitations and being persuaded by internal and external factors does happen. However, we do have free will on many things, essentially all the decisions that the frontal cortex makes. For example, I fasted 7 days only drinking water and ate nothing simply because I wanted to challenge myself. I could have kept fasting but it wasn't productive as I was feeling more sleepy than I normally would. Also, responding to internal and external s stimuli is a decision, even though I feel sleepy I could decide not to sleep, or I could go to sleep because I feel sleepy. I both cases I had to decide given the information from my body and my agenda for that day
Meditation is a beautiful thing I’ve only done it right sitting down in the shower a wave of bliss hit my body my hands had lagged images when I moved them left to right this is what I believe if you don’t that’s kool 🤷♂️
I can agree with what he said in the beginning I learned early on the free will was just an illusion it gave me more control over my decisions and made me less acceptable to stage 1 p.s I’ve found weed to increase stage 2 and decrease stage 1 making you appear slower but to you the world is a lot more clear
If Free will doesn't exist what is the point of life? why bother going through it when nothing really matters it's just going to be on autopilot! Everything you do is already predetermined to happen so nothing you do really matters it's already done everything in life is just pointless!
well when u said that we should try and stop thinking i stoped the video closed my eyes and took a deep breath ... it went well for 4 sec before having head aches and thinking that i went pretty far completly black
The issue of free-will is purely philosophical and opposes the infinite universes (multiverse) theory. Its also too simplistic to be of any practical use. The benefactors from these two opposing theories are those people most desperate to absolve themselves of any responsibility for what they do e.g tyrants rapists etc. From a pragmatic perspective, (and I will try my best to refrain using free-will) a human makes hundreds of 'choices' each day. Instead of "choice", i could've used reaches-a-fork-in-the-road but its a long word. The choices one makes in the present (whether pre-determined or not) will be amplified and lead to almost infinitely diverse futures (chaos theory). Therefore whether u believe in free-will or not, u can make choices in the present, and these efforts determine an increasingly divergent set of permutations of the future that become available while other permutations are closed permanently. Within these permutations u in-turn make further choices and diversify permutations while closing others. Life in the industrial world can be too organised and leads to feelings of helplessness and lack of free-will. But these feelings diminish for those who experience life in more than one country as they feel themselves basking in a flood of endless possibilities . Humans don't need to know about free-will to realise choices have consequences and we learn this from a verly early age. As we grow up we realise the importance of consequences some of which permanently shape our life experience. Consequences are always something that is considered and calculated by a pragmatist's mind while philosophy only studies why you think in a certain way.
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