She did so well on her first time on the street. I did worry alittle and she did fall...but we figured out why! Learn from our mistakes and become better.
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Hey @DanDanTheFireman (Mostly Nikki) , that fall was nothing to do with any of the technique you just learned, and let's just look at what you did after it - you picked that bike up, and you put it back into gear and then you did a u-turn in the road and did that completely considerately and carefully and most importantly, calmly. I would have been furious at myself and might not have been able to get the bike up with embarrassment, what you did was a bloody excellent response. You even knew exactly what went wrong too! You need not be too hard on yourself!
Dan - You're making some of the same mistakes that i found my instructors made, and it's hard because the balance between talking too much and not giving enough instruction is difficult. What might be a better idea is what you have done occasionally, which is instead of telling her what to do all the time, ask her to tell you what she's about to do and then correct her if there's anything wrong in it, but then let her explain it again and then do it. I'm not trying to be too harsh on you here by the way, i'm just trying to think to myself what would i want in the perfect instructor and then trying to tell you where you deviate from that. You're doing a great job too.
Unfortunately, it looks like Murphy’s Law at play here; whatever can go wrong will go wrong at some time. On the plus side, it was wonderful to see Nikki’s ability to dig deep, and with a cool head, heaved the motorcycle back up, finishing with how to U-turn and pull away.
A credit to Dans training methods and also a credit to Nikki for having the strength of character to carry on. Highlighting the importance of practising a technique as much as reasonably practicable as well as preparing a contingency plan for if/when things don’t go so well.
Riding a motorcycle or doing anything else in life, is full of woulda, shoulda or coulda moments and folk. The only really important thing is how we deal with incidents at the time. Nikki demonstrating just how resourceful, a determined, competent and level-headed person can be once they have received the right coaching.
I would suggest a life lesson for Keyboard Cowboys and Sheeple i.e. Hush, get back up, dust yourself off, carry on regardless!
Well done Nikki and Dan this video is a testament to both of you so thanks for sharing and enjoy the tune: http://www.forexmospherians.com/music-and-entertainment-videos-forexmospherians-com/andra-day-rise-up-live-acoustic-video
I dont know why there are multiple posts saying that her bike is to big for her. My girl is only 100 pounds and she rides an iron 883 which is 150 pounds heavier than the rebel 500. She also has only been riding about 5 months now and has lifted her bike from dropping it a couple times.When lifting a bike its all technique on using your lower body.
I think a Honda Grom would be a good bike for her to learn on. It’s light and small, but has all the normal controls that bigger bikes have. Once she is comfortable riding the Grom, changing gears, down shifting, and turn signals, she would then be ready for the Rebel 500. Don’t give up Nikki... you’ll love it in a month or so.
Thanks for doing these vids Dan and Nikki, It must be tough but it really helps put things into perspective and realize things to watch out for. You're doing great, glad having some bumps while learning isn't discouraging you, can't wait to start riding myself one day.
Like Nikki, I'm completely new to riding. However, riding a Honda NC750x with the DCT transmission has made the learning curve almost too easy. No thinking about gears, stalling the bike, or shifting is necessary. You just focus on the road and riding. Stress free riding at its best. Have her test ride a Honda CTX 700 with a DCT to see if she likes it. Either way, keep practicing and don't EVER give up Nikki.
So should I still be in the parking lot or should I take my parking lot skills to the road now...theres only so much I can learn in the parking lot. I'm not on a busy road... Just going back and forth. I think I'm fine with what I am doing. 💕 - Nikki
Watching you and countless other videos have persuaded me to buy a motorcycle. Life is short. And I want to enjoy as much as I can of it. I take my MSF in November. Buying a rebel 500 after tax season. Keep up the great videos Dan!. Always a pleasure watching your vids mate.
I stalled in the middle of a road when I was turning on my first ever ride... you’ll get there! Mistakes are how you learn.. also look at the great U turn after you got back up... get out of your own head! :P
OMG why are you letting her go by herself!!!???? I'm sorry bro, but you are a bad teacher. I don't agree with half the things you are advising this poor girl to do. I hope and pray she stays safe. Too big of a bike, and not a good enough instructor. You have just motivated me to make a motovlog because this shit is crazy.
+DanDanTheFireman I will definitely link you once I get everything up and running. But please keep that girl safe, she is super adorable and it's looks like you care about her but passing the MSF course means you understand the basic machanics. of a motorcycle. Riding on the road is different. The bike is too big for her at least for now. Maybe after she gets some confidence and experience then the 500 would be a great step up bike. But if someone is having that hard of a time keeping the bike up , there is some kind of problem.
Ahh! That was so tense! Gotta say, (if you don't mind) I was living for it when you BAMF'd up your bike, Nikki! (I definitely cheered) So far in this series Dan has stepped in to pick it up, the drama was at its height for this episode.
The TU250X was a perfect starter bike for me. My actual first bike was a Ninja 500 that felt too top heavy for me and I dropped it while riding. I never felt confident on it so I sold it. I bought the Suzuki TU250X and I never dropped that bike while riding, except for the time I was parked and forgot to put the kickstand down in a parking lot, oops! It's very small, very light, and an easy to maneuver bike. I understand you have the bike now and aren't going to try a different starter bike, but for anyone else who is of smaller build and starting out consider the TU250X. I now have a Yammaha R3 and a Triumph Bonneville and have no issues riding them. Im certain that I'd have no problem riding the Ninja 500 now. A small bike gives you confidence and is so much easier to handle when starting out. It made all the difference for me.
Good job getting the bike up yourself, brushing it off and riding back👍 it kinda reminded me of my first time riding in the street I stalled 3 times in a intersection cause I forgot I was in 3rd gear it got me so nervous because cars were around, it was embarrassing for me, but we all have to learn from our mistakes. Your doing great, be safe.
Too many people didn't watch the event or something. It was a simple mistake of being in a high gear and assuming to be in first, then turning the wheel while trying to take off. With the wheel turned, the bike gets much harder to hold up. I've done it on my GoldWing and I've been riding for years. You're doing fine, Nikki. You won't learn anything if Dan wraps you in bubble wrap and installs training wheels and an automatic transmission. You are really riding in the real world and that is the best thing ever :) Keep the shiny side up!
Absolutely! I think I specifically said that neither the bike nor the rider were the issue. The instructor isn't the issue either, although it wouldn't be how I would want to be taught. Everyone is different though. And again, saddle time is really what it's all about. That's the answer! You're 100% right that we'll be eating our dust at a law abiding speed soon enough. And that really should happen on your timeline and according to your comfort level. Probably didn't come across in the right way but my point was really to encourage you to keep at it with the bike that you have (because you really don't have a choice, right?) and you'll be fine! The answer ISN'T in getting a different bike! You've got this! I'm in full support!
And that's okay. I appreciate your comment no matter. I just hate to think that people think the bike is the issue or my instructor is. I'm a student that is learning.... And what we have going on is how I do so. 💕 - Nikki
Honestly - All I was trying to say was that the "you should have gotten a different bike" criticism isn't that helpful for where you find yourself at the moment. You have to learn how to ride the bike that you have, right? That's what I saw the "If I were you I would have bought a... ... ..." comment as coming across as. I don't actually think the bike is the issue and I don't think you're an issue either, as I said. Just get some saddle time in and you'll be good.
I can't imagine trying to focus with someone constantly barking at me like that.
p.s. I talk while I'm riding all the time! When you put that helmet on, it's like you're in your own little world. It's awesome! And there's nothing at all wrong with the speed with which you are progressing! You're doing great! Advice like "you should have a different bike" just doesn't seem to be all that useful. Keep on truckin' with what you've got! You got this.
I took a break from the YouTube comments for that past 2 days. They've been very disheartening and unuseful (if that's even a word). But I've really enjoyed reading this banter tonight. @vatossan, what you initially said is probably true. If I started on a smaller bike (Idk what a Suzuki Blvd s40 is, but that's what I'm assuming it is) I would be able to hold it up, but the point the other guy is saying is, is that you're comment isn't useful... At all. What help does it do? I chose a larger bike. I can't return my rebel NOR DO I WANT TO . Honestly, this bike isn't even that big. THE BIKE IS NOT THE ISSUE. I AM. And no one is understanding that. Let me adjust and become comfortable. Everyone learns differently. If you want to give advice make sure I can actually use it... That's my first point. Second is @Groovinonfunk. Daniel is not chirping in my ear - i feel like meant that in a negative way.... We've been together for years now, and he knows what I need. He is like my Jimeny Cricket.... Reminding me of what I should be doing. I'm having issues with self confidence and he's reminding me not to focus on that, but instead, focus on my bike. There are comments on here saying he's talking too much. Or I'm talking too much. But I will tell him when I need him to SHUT UP while I concentrate and when I need him to speak up. And I talk while I'm riding because it helps with my nerves... Gets my mind off my self doubt. This comment wasn't necessarily geared only to you two, but everyone else these past few days..... Comment something helpful. Bring people in your community or interested in your community (The Biker Community) up! Lift them up. Help them achieve what they want. Instead of assuming you know exactly what is best and we are wrong and you are right....the helpful criticism that have been given are wanted. But the useless ones are USELESS. I'm trying. I will achieve it whether you think I suck cuz Im a woman or cuz no one else is supposed to drop their bike a few times after taking an MSF course. Just watch, you'll be eating my dust, at a reasonable, within the law abiding speed...but probably in like 2 years, because I'm taking baby steps. 💕 - Nikki
Really cool seeing you handle the drop so well. Dropping while on the road can be super scary, and honestly worse than the fear is embarrassment. But you handled it so well. Got right back up, started up, and kept going. You handles it in a calm and collected way which is the hardest part. Nice job.
**SUGGESTION: Gear Indicator .. Would be a helpful gadget for Nikki. She's doing great.
Ur an inspiration for present & future female riders. Hope U pass the motorcycle's coach class.
.......... U & Adam Sandoval should network & ride together for a charity.
Actually doesnt matter that much the weight of the bike. It is all about practice. I’ve started with a 1200 roadster. I’ve dropped the bike sometimes and fell once. I’d drop even if I was in a 125cc though
A tip we got in the motorcycle course was to “double tap” the shifter when you’re stopped and waiting to clear the stop sign or whatever. Click it down once, and then try one more just to be sure you’re in 1st gear. Xo.
Don't be afraid to ride that clutch, practice it at every corner getting just into the friction zone. You should be able to tell what gear it is in or at least when it isn't in 1st by riding the clutch in the friction zone. Bounce the bike back and forth a few times at each corner.
@DanDan teach her to proper lift the bike. Bending down and lifting the bike as she did could hurt your baby's back 😜 she dealt the situation very well though. I dont think it's a heavy bike for her. She just needs to build up confidence, and practice, pratice, practive🤘
She is doing good and took care of that situation like a boss! Dan you are incredibly nice and patient! Great teacher! Suggestion...teach her how to pick the bike up by lifting facing away from bike so she is not using her back to pick her up
That is why she keeps dropping her bike but not in the MSF class. In the Msf class, they tell you what you need to do and let you do it. He keep telling her this and that while she is riding. She will never learn on her own when he is acting like tiger mom. At this point, He should just let someone else teach her.
LOL, yeah I did that day one with my new bike. Stopped in the same spot where I stopped all the time on my old bike, then when I went to stand 'er up, I straightened the wheel to fast and it bumped me to my right... The rest of the fall looked just like yours. Great job on handling yourself after! Welcome to the club!
You went down because you were in third gear thats why it didn't move when you let the clutch out.
After you picked it up and got it turned around it was making that clunking noise because you were still in third gear and lugging it.
When you are coming to a stop and you realize you forgot to down shift and you pull in the clutch and step down on the shifter and it feels like it only goes down one gear -> while still slowly rolling forward - Clutch out clutch in one down - clutch out clutch in one down - till you get it into first... You are gonna be doing that clutch out clutch in often when you forget to downshift. Better to always down shift on the way in than to have to downshift from 6th gear to 1st gear after you are stopped... Its just the nature of the motorcycle transmission.
Yes understood , NORMAL up or down gear shifting requires only one pull in of the clutch. But thats not what I'm referring to here. Read the first sentence in the second paragraph. This ONLY occurs when you come to a stop or nearly a stop and forgot to down shift and you are still in 5th or 6th gear. Its not referring to normal up or down shifting when the bike is in motion. When she tried to take her left turn and let out the clutch it was in third gear because she is inexperienced and is not familiar with what I'm referring to here. She thought she was in first because she pulled in on the clutch and stomped down on the shifter and it would not go down any further. Then moments later letting out the clutch stalled it because it was in 3rd or 4th instead of 1st gear. She was caught by surprise when she commited and leaned into the turn and it did not take off and just stalled. I thought my first post explained it rather well. Any experienced motorcycle rider would read my first post and know exactly what I'm talking about. But there are all kinds of beginners watching Dans videos so your milleage may vary... Hope that cleared it up for you.
I'm proud of you, Nikki, for getting back up and continuing on. Everybody makes mistakes and those mistakes will help define you as a rider - if you learn from them. Next time you're at a stop and need to make a left, you'll remember this and will not fall again. You've just realized what not to do next time. These little lessons, difficult as they may be to deal with at the time, are going to make you a very good rider later on. I applaud you for getting back up, dusting yourself off and getting back on the bike. Don't get discouraged; Everyone goes through a period like this. These experiences are what are going to make you a great rider.
You go girl! Stalling happens to all us newbies. I stalled at an intersection 😖 Stopped at a red light in 2nd gear, light turned green and well you know the rest. Now i know to make sure I’m on 1st when I take off from a stop lol.
Negativity is not going to help her boost her confidence when I. First learned it was on dirt bikes never ridden in my life just got on the dirt and GO mistakes I made plenty just like Nikki keep practicing relax I watch videos even to this day over and over to just embed in my brain your doing great job you will get it don’t worry 👍🏼
Good job Nikki! If it makes you feel better, I locked my rear wheel downshifting on my first ride and I almost smashed into a parked car. Thankfully I managed to save the spin. It can be tricky working through the gears when your mind is going through so many things. Keep up the good work!
Yes. What locks/makes your rear wheel spin when downshifting is downshifting at too high RPMS, or when you downshift and give way too much throttle before releasing the clutch. I wanted to go from 5th to 3rd and I accidentally shifted down to 2nd because I was on edge for being on my first ride.
It's not that common though, just try to avoid downshifting when your revs are too high. Rev matching also helps preventing this (clutch in - give it a little throttle - downshift - release clutch)
Nikki- seriously impressed that you handled that drop in the street so well. I'm sure it's weird and uncomfortable having so many people see your mistakes but I know there are people in the comment section who have made those exact mistakes. We're rooting for you! Keep practicing and it'll be second nature to you soon enough.
I would highly recommend taking the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course, they are available all around the country and will teach someone the basics enough to safely and smartly ride on the street. In addition, there are courses for riders of higher levels of skill so they can continue to practice and improve their motorcycling.
She got it up by herself and made it back fine. That's a huge accomplishment! Now she knows if for any reason she drops it out on the street, she can handle it herself and at least get it off the road.
May I share a technique I use for not stalling the engine / enhancing your friction zone and acceleration from a stop...
For the Rebel, while in 1st or 2nd gear at a stop, pull clutch and rev up a little before engaging the friction zone / accelerate
This gives a small boost in RPM (as if launching a bike) - and prevent you from stalling the bike. It is best used in 2nd gear in slow speed maneuver or accelerating from a complete stop
Unlike a Harley, the Rebel is not as powerful, you won't launch it or locking the rear tire
Edited: also, you should train her to always straighten the handle bar (front wheel) whenever she brakes
She has been doing exactly what I did during my first week (before I went to train at Honda safety riding course)
You should let her work on that
Hooray Nikki, way to go girl. One tip I would give you though, to keep you from stalling...is this. When you come to stops, keep your throttle lightly giving the bike rpm...while you are having clutch in. This allows the throttle to still be im play, then all uoi would have to do from there is lightly use the friction zone. All and all great job, for first time on the road.
Wtf...why would you let her go on the road without you riding with her! I live in BC and without a full endorsement we need to ride with a supervisor because of this stuff happening. You saying "it's all you" is doing her such a disservice and could have been disastrous but hey it gets views. Not sure how people can learn from this unless it makes you feel that I can't be this awful. Also you saying if you screw up just speed away you're the fastest thing on the road. Dude how about not screwing up in the first place. Thumbs down.
Q liketheletter don't be daft. You act like she's a child who is doing what she's told to do. She's a grown woman and WANTS to do this. This is HER choice, and he is helping her learn. Don't be so judgemental about things you know very little of.
Aww man she did good fair play Nikki you handled that like a pro falling happens and you did awsome just shake it off and crack on. Man you have the patience it's good I'm hoping the wife will be doing her test next year too she wants the same bike the reble 500 is an awsome first bike 👍
Oh my I just took a minute to watch the whole video. WOW NIKKI YOU DID IT!!! you took a deep breath and did it. Man my eyes are watering. It wasn't terrible it was life and you handled it great!! You got back up and back on!!! Amazing!!!
You should have followed her on your own bike instead of letting her go on her own. That could have been a very dangerous situation for her and that bike is too heavy for her. She needs a smaller bike!
hey you two :) youre doing a really great job together and nicki is improving quickly. love to see that, just never give up. im getting back into riding myself right now, had a pretty horrific accident 18y ago. guess the road just keeps on calling. good luck to you guys and im really looking forward to the next installments when you can ride together, gonna be such great fun! greetings from germany
Wooooooo yeahhhhhhh go girl!!!! First ride on the mean streets lol!! You handled that fall like a badass. Way to go!!!! It's a process!! I dropped mine sunday pulling onto some gnarly gravel lol. It happens. You did great. A little overwhelming isn't it??!!!
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