For patients on antidepressants, it's not always clear when they should stop taking the medicines. WSJ's Andrea Petersen and Rush University Medical Center's Dr. Mark Pollack discuss with Tanya Rivero. Photo illustration: Mike Sudal/The Wall Street Journal; Photo: iStock
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Took Effexor/Pristiq for the better part of 20 years and recently stopped cold turkey. The nightmares have returned but other than that I still haven't seen an increase in sadness. However the risk/reward while taking this drug was kind of expensive. Several side effects made it barely worth it.
How can people actually complain not to start this drug bla bla bla when you really have the real severe depression, having this at least make you living instead totally dysfunction and waste of heartbeat. What now? Commit suicide?
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Really annoys me that doctors never look into the nutition of a patient which I beleive is one of the main reasons for mental illnesses. So of course if you're coming off your meds but still eating badly you won't be supplying your neurotransmitters with the right nutrition. Secondly most people come off antidepressants much too quickly and what doctors say is the mental illness coming back could very well be simply withdrawal symptoms. Best not to ever start these drugs and look into your lifestyle and nutrition first. Stresses cause nutritional deficiencies..
I am taking sertraline and I am really worried it will mess up my serotonin and after a few months the serotonin wont be produced by the brain without the substance. Am I right on thinking that? Can sertraline damage the brain permanently?
they feel better on meds and want to come off.If they get depressed off the medication , has the medication done any good. or is it just doing good while its in the system. it just shows BIG pharma,s plan comfort not cure.
robert smith It isn't supposed to be a cure. Depression has some biological factors that antidepressants work with, sure, but it's still a job of mentally ill person to reshape his/her thinking process to get him/herself out of this vicious circle of negative thoughts and try to make a living without this habit of thinking negatively all the time.
I don't say that negative thoughts should be obsolete and not important, since:
A) It's basically impossible to live without negative thoughts all the time;
B) Always-on positive thinking can hause a lot of harm, too.
So, it's all about finding a good balance. And antidepressants help people find that balance. But they cannot do all the work just like a usual bicycle (not electric one, those are more like electroconvulsive therapy) won't help you to get to your destination faster without you pedaling this thing.
Don't ever stop taking antidepressants. Once you start, your on for life and if you stop you'll be suicidal anyway so the question becomes moot. That's why that pill pusher won't give a straight answer. It is interesting that these bozo's are using the addiction term "relapse" for depressive episodes. Depression is not a choice, it comes on when your the most venerable all by itself and without your knowledge. It's not falling off the wagon, there is no wagon save taking pills for the rest of your life. Don't trust psychologists, they are shills for the big pharma, making a ton of money hooking you on a drug that you will be addicted to for many, many years to come.
I did something very similar, I was taking 5mg 3x a week for a year and it was all I needed to be functional, healthy and normal.
I think you can take small amounts like this as maintenance
Antidepressants are not the cure of depression. Instead the correct diet which does not inflame the gut can stop it. As various inflammatory mediators are directly linked to brain to pass inflammation to the brain.
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Most people believe that psychiatry is exactly like all the others in the medical field, the Objective diagnosis is based on tests in the same way, and That is the real cure diseases by Using medications. In fact, different from both the psychiatric diagnoses and therapies Such as cancer or diabetes diagnoses enormously, Because of Mental Disorders are not detected in any biological "diseases" That Could be psychiatric "medication" by Using the "cure".
Here, you can access a number of Little-Known Facts of modern psychiatry, Which should be familiar every patient, physician, and politician.
1. The Claim That frequent psychiatric drugs to help normalize the biochemical balance of the brain, it is not true.
Do not have a second antidepressant Greater than Placebo Effect.
3. There is no biological REASON.
4. A diagnostic system is not valid.
5. Psychiatrists are in many ways linked to the pharmaceutical industry.
6. Negative effects in most cases can not be accepted or Recognized.
7. Long-negative effects.
8. The long term drug is ingested, there is no justification.
9. The Regulation of Controlled Drugs by the pharmaceutical industry.
10. Pharmaceutical Research results have been falsified and hidden.
11. Detoxification Medicines Can Be Terrible Consequences.
12. Children should not take psychiatric drugs.
13 Psychiatric drugs cause a change of consciousness and Even Death (suicide, violence), and serious damage to health, Especially SSRI drugs).
WHERE IS Clinical Evidence that the person is suffering from the said so-called '' mental disease ''? In most cases, Remains unproven.
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Fake-drug May also, in Which case the material used for the drug component is absent.
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All psychiatrists have in common that when they are caught on camera or on microphone, they cower and admit that there are no such things as chemical imbalances/diseases, or examinations or tests for them. What they do in practice, lying in every instance, abrogating [revoking] the informed consent right of every patient and poisoning them in the name of ‘treatment’ is nothing short of criminal.
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Wow! So much the good doc does not mention here. How about how these medications are dependency forming. Not addictive-- you don't crave them. But once you start taking them you become dependent on them, meaning you need to keep taking them just to stay normal. And how about when the doc says there is no evidence that long-term use of these meds are bad for you-- has there been much research? There would likely not be much official evidence if there hasn't been any official research. I'm sure the meds help some people. I'm sure there is depression that is purely chemically based, but very often depression is a symptom of a problem in your life. When you deal with the problem, your depression will lift. The right anti-depressant is often not a pill but a lifestyle change or just getting through a bump in the road and having a great support system. And if you start taking anti-depressants, of course you chances of relapse are high-- because these meds are dependency forming. As for getting off the meds, you can't do it cold turkey. You have to find a doc who is down with getting you off the meds and then do it slowly and incrementally. And by the way, they talk here about the likelihood of having a second major depressive episode if you have had a first, but is that second episode most likely to happen if you have been on meds and go off? What does the research say about the likelihood of having a second major depressive episode if you got through the first one without chemical intervention. Just so much not discussed in this clip. Conveniently left out. Wonder how many of the people in this clip are on the drug company's payroll.
Of course people are at a high chance of relapse. Antidepressants don't treat or cure depression or anxiety, they are only for symptom management. If you're not actually treating the cause (emotional/spiritual injury), you will be at high risk of those problems resurfacing.
took lexapro for three months, zoloft after that + lamictal... 11 months after starting meds.... i'm still here, stressors come and go, but that's life. I believe that antidepressants work... but added therapy works wonders.
There is no money in cure so doctors will drug you up because theyre getting paid to do it,i was on sertraline for 13 years then in 2016 was told i was left on them 9 years longer than i should have been ie neglected so was taken straight off them..its taken me 3 years to get to some sort of recovery the medical system is so corrupt..just go for some reiki therapy its better for you im now a reiki healer..Namaste
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Because there ARE instructions on how to do that PROPERLY!
And they all involve medical psychiatrist/psychotherapist so that they can monitor your condition and regulate your process of taking antidepressants by slowly lowering the dose if there's no regress. It's basic and universal, but every antidepressant has some quirks which require a professional look into individual case.
You just cannot know all those quirks unless you're trained to know and see them (and even a good psychiatrist won't notice them in him/herself), which is why it's always a bad idea to try self-treatment.
‘Antidepressant’ is only a marketing tool. Studies show effect sizes so small it takes a statistician to tell them apart from a sugar pills. Antidepressants- for the most part- are what mds give to sheeple instead of having them deal w life. It’s (mostly) just a silly game we play.
If you do decide to take these drugs, take the minimum amount necessary, for as brief a time as you can, and don’t stop doing all the other things you need to do to be well...
Be skeptical, and do not fall for the marketing.
take at least 6-12 Months after you`re free of symptoms.. after 2nd relaps think about taking a low dose for the rest of your live... funnier things to do but it´s a cronic disease... it´s not just the mental side, it´s also a disorder in your brain , you brain is not working right...... and that can only be treated with meds... others have to take meds all their life for heart diseases etc... don`t think about it all the time.. if you want, compensate by a healthy lifestyle
You nailed it.
One you’ve done whatever you can if you are going through a second relapse then you have to face the fact it’s a chronic condition. It’s unfortunate and it’s sad but thankfully we have this treatment.
Thank you for one of the few reasonable comments here. So many tinfoil pharma conspiracy nuts... Been suffering from recurring episodes of depression for 10 years. After many behavioral therapies (that did not work) started a SSRI this year.
You have to give the meds a chance since you will feel crappier at first, but it's unbelievable how my symptoms have disappeared and I feel joy in life again.
It may not work for everyone but it did for me.
Well difficult to say as probably every antidepressant is different. I use Prozac a lot and buy Prozac online at Pharmacy XL at https://www.pharmacy-xl.com/antidepressants-drugs-list-products-drugstore-supplements-medicines-depression-relief-medication-without-prescription-online-pharmacy-xl.html as it saves a lot of money to buy them online. I always read the description which comes with the meds and only use it when I need it.
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how horrible 'relapse ' is disingenuous most people do not relapse but for most they are experiencing drug withdrawal and possibly brain harm from having an artificial agent mess with receptor sites long term causing an imbalance to an organ our brains that try to keep balance
Someone is lying here. If 2/3 of people on anti-depressants are depressed then an increase in depression following "quitting" has to do with rebounding. If there is no physical stimulation to produce the serotonin, then the receptors will have nothing to "catch"! However, if the patient is getting adequate sunlight, "vigorous" exercise, practice at laughing it's unlikely that he/she will fall back into depression. Come on people this is not an absence of neurochemicals it's an absence of physical stimuli which produces the neurolo-chemical deficiency!!!! Also, if more people are prone to suicide while taking ADs, then why in the hell would they be prescribed!? I now that the correct answer has$ in it. I also know that the re-imbursement form Pharma to Dr.'s directly can be as much as a quarter of a Million dollars annually!!! (SF Chronicle report and the highest reimbursements directly to doctors for prescribing 2016)
I'm 63 yo been on Prozac 4 yrs. It changed my life.I intend to NEVER stop taking it. On and off I tried to self- medicate all my life. I liked the pills,could never drink alcohol. PROZAC SAVED MY LIFE!
I think those who are going through difficult times in their life, should just avoid medication. If their case of depression was caused by a problem, they really don't need it because the depression will stop upon resolution. They're basically only throwing money away and unnecessarily suffering the side effects.
Of course, the problems are: 1. People may not know they have a problem or don't know how to deal with the problem. 2. Something may be a problem for them which nobody else regards as a problem (I see jobs as a problem-For various reasons). 3. People don't know how to communicate, or don't know depression is a matter of communication. 4. People don't realize that A. Solutions may take awhile to achieve or B. People have to figure out how to live around the problem because they can't solve it.
People say depression is a chemical imbalance. I don't know if it is, but, if it is: I say the depression itself is the imbalance, but, it's only temporary is the depression is caused by some hardship in life.
+Little Chucky , Captain Obvious,
1. I stopped taking that poison and try to warn others by sharing my story.
2. If a person deflects the question "Are you on drugs?" It's a good bet they are.
3. The path to recovery begins only after understanding that these drugs are not medicine.
4. Support works best if you do not lie to the people whom you seek support from.
5. You are = You're.
Try to prevent using. Give yourself rest as brain is also an organ that needs rest or things go wrong up there. But rest make the body heal itself. There are good herbs that help the brain processes. Anti depression is not a medicine. After you stop you'll be where you started. Its like a painkiller.
im a bit late but i started taking 100mg zolfot recently and it has changed my life for the better. Most people commenting here have never taken these meds. get real professional help if you feel you need it
Wish I would have never started. I feel like I will never be able to stop. I have a family and a stressful job and several attempts to wean have been unsuccessful. I was much worse coming off than before I even started
I'd like them to look at my angry face for a long time. BS artists. Their so called medications are minor and major tranquilizers only, that's all they are, nothing more. Treating us like animals, lab rats.
Antidepressants are medications that can help relieve symptoms of depression, social anxiety disorder, anxiety disorders, seasonal affective disorder, and dysthymia, or mild chronic depression, as well as other conditions.
They aim to correct chemical imbalances of neurotransmitters in the brain that are believed to be responsible for changes in mood and behavior.
Depression Medications (Antidepressants)
These are the most commonly prescribed type of antidepressant.
Serotonin and noradrenaline reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs) are used to treat major depression, mood disorders, and possibly but less commonly attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), anxiety disorders, menopausal symptoms, fibromyalgia, and chronic neuropathic pain.
SNRIs raise levels of serotonin and norepinephrine, two neurotransmitters in the brain that play a key role in stabilizing mood.
Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) are the most commonly prescribed antidepressants. They are effective in treating depression, and they have fewer side effects than the other antidepressants.
SSRIs block the reuptake, or absorption, of serotonin in the brain. This makes it easier for the brain cells to receive and send messages, resulting in better and more stable moods.
They are called "selective" because they mainly seem to affect serotonin, and not the other neurotransmitters.